Ann Baker Interview

Transcript – Part 2: Genetics Discussion

Ann Baker Genetics Discussion – Interview Transcript: Part 2. She describes how creating the Ragdoll Cat Breed involved genetic inheritance.

Now when on my breeding program they got my breeding program in the National Geographic magazine. So when they did my breeding program they set it up with a little bit different way but it’s the same thing and you got this in your package of literature.

Later in the video Ann held up a copy of the National Geographic Magazing, showed several pages while discussing the diagrams and content.  She stated:

“Now when on my breeding program they got my breeding program in the National Geographic magazine. So when they did my breeding program they set it up with a little bit different way…”

Here is a link to a PDF file of this National Geographic article (The Awesome Worlds within a Cell, September 1976) that she shows in the video.  Unfortunately, there is nowhere in the article stating her name, or the Ragdoll cat breed, or frankly anything we can find that could resemble “my breeding program.”  It is certainly an interesting article that talks a lot about genetic research, such as it was in September 1976.

 Now you have a this is daddy here with the circle around it and can you see it from over there? And now we have black cats we mate the black cats to him and you get black and white kittens. Then you have to wait a year for them to grow up and you mate back to him and then you get grey and white and then you wait a year for those to grow up and you mate back to him and you get calico then you have to wait a year for those to grow up and mate back to him and you get yellow and white and grey and white and then you have to wait a year for those to grow up, mate back to him and you get seal point and lilac point but you might get one or two that look like the mother and so if they don’t have blue eyes and points you have to go one more generation. So that’s where the seven years come in that I had to put seven years in of having alley looking cats before I could get em to look like all ragdolls. And when I moved here I had that whole aisle back there full of real big fluffy huge ragdolls. So this is what comes up on that other book. Now when you get the package of literature that we give you. You also get this page here. Now it tells ya how they’re doing the same thing to pigs and rats or mice and so on and so forth. It says another approach is you reprogram the genetic material which dictates how some part of a plant or animal will behave. The species will then produce better fruit, richer milk or even some product quite foreign to their normal nature. This is done by a technique called the genetical engineering. See you can make a different personality entirely in the cat body. So if you have this you can read that. I think you’ve all gotten that in your literature.

All right now, I tell you another little story here before we go on about how they’re doing all this kind of stuff to people. Now they took 26 men age 61 to 81 years old. And this is a picture of one of the men. Now actually this is the first page but I wanted to write this up over here so you can tell what I’m talking about. Now it says over here “’I started to feeling changes after 3 months (they went on a two-year program – a research program). I started feeling the changes after 3 months’, says a retired factory worker as he recalled how his body regained 20 years of lost vigor with weekly injections of genetically engineered human growth hormone. The hormone normally is produced in the body but the levels gradually decline with age and stop altogether in 1/3 of men those who aged the fastest. His flabby skin became taunt, his soft muscles hardened, fat melted away” and listen to this, “internal organs shrunken by age resumed their youthful size and vigor.” Most women on my tour always says oh no and the men says oh yes what was that stuff? Now I can’t put anything in that’s out of books but I can put stuff in that’s out of the newspaper. So all of these things that tells you about all the new fruits and vegetables and stuff that’s coming on the market because it’s supposed to make us healthier as long as we live and all that kinda stuff. The only thing that I can find in the newspaper was about tomatoes. Now you can all have a copy of this when you go. Now my son’s got a tree in his yard which is part plum and part nectarine. And the fruit was so delicious I wish I could’ve eaten the whole tree. But the next year there was so much fruit on the ground there was enough to supply a tree but there was so much fruit left on the tree the limbs all broke off. Now I’ve talked to a lot of people who know about this and they said this has been 30 years in the coming. It’s gonna take 30 years to get things ironed out. Because you got all these other things that come in on the like the things goin on off the tree. Now see they’re doin this all trees and plants and everything because of the acid rain and the smog and stuff killin everything. But they put stuff in it’s goin overdo it and it’s gonna kill the plants why, why do it? See they have to find a middle ground to do some of the stuff that they’re doin. Okay.

Now let’s see if I got everything on the ragdolls. Seems to me there like there’s something I’m leaving out. But if I did, I’ll come back to it.

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